| Pioneer Premier AVIC-F90BT |  | Brand: Pioneer
Category: Car Audio or Theater
Buy Used: $599.99
as of 7/29/2010 18:21 EDT details
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Used (3) Refurbished (1) from $599.99
Seller: nrnacho
Rating:  39 reviews
Sales Rank: 24,215
Media: Electronics
Autographed: No
Memorabilia: No
Display Size: 5.8
Includes MP3 Player: 1
Shipping Weight (lbs): 5
MPN: AVIC-F90BT
Model: F90BT
UPC: 012562897271
EAN: 0012562897271
Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days
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| Features:
| • | Navigation system with DVD player, LCD monitor, digital player |
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Product Description
No more hassling with map discs. Now you don't have to worry about discs being misplaced, damaged, lost, or stolen because we've done away with them for the F-Series navigation line. We've taken the entire TeleAtlas Database that was previously on the two-DVD set, compressed it down, and stored it internally on flash memory.
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 Might as well get a laptop, it's cheaper! May 6, 2010
Houston Wade (Seattle, WA)
My avic F90bt is a buggy piece of crap. When I first got it inMarch '08 it worked ok with the 2.0 firmware, only glitches here and there but nothing too big. I do a lot of roadtrip driving across the continent from Seattle to Ontario and back, or a 4,000 mile loop through the SW so the GPS and ability to insert my 16GB SD card for music was awesome. Then I made a huuuge mistake; I shelled out $120 for the 2009 map upgrade and upgrade to the 3.0 firmware. Well, that will teach me.
Ever since I "upgraded", music from my SD card will not change songs while the map display or the music display is on screen. It will only move on to the next song (on its own) if I have the root menu on screen. I cannot skip a song if anything but the root menu is displayed. The touch screen does not work while an mp3 is playing unless the root menu is on screen. For what was originally a $1200 stereo, this thing is a genuine POS. Shame on Pioneer for producing this pretty, yet useless, software interface.
Let's say you want to go on a really long roadtrip, I'm talking six weeks on the open road; ten hours a day of driving. Having the option of inserting an SD card with 6,000 songs on it for the trip sounds awesome right? Just slide that puppy in and hit "random" and you'll have songs for weeks. That's not how it works. You may have 6,000 songs on that SD card but the Pioneer Avic F90bt will only care about 100 of those songs and will play those same 100 songs over, and over, and over-- sometimes the same song twice in a row! For the entire road trip you only hear the same 100 songs, leaving 5,900 songs you will never get to listen to because the unit will not respond to manually trying to select a song since the touch screen won't work when an mp3 is playing! If I wanted to listen to the same 100 songs over and over I would have purchased a 6-disc CD changer, not a state of the art $1,200 mp3 player.
Pioneer brags about their program "AVIC Feeds" that allows someone to make a kml or csv file of their gps waypoints and transfer them to their head unit and use these waypoints as new "Points of Interest" that the GPS can supply directions to. It has never worked. After more than a year with this stereo I have resigned to the fact that it will never work.
One of the reasons I purchased the F90bt over Pioneer's other similar head units was the fact that in 3D-mode landmarks in cities all over North America were displayed as 3D renderings. Cool right? Not once in Seattle, Chicago, New York, LA, San Francisco, Minneapolis, etc... has any building ever been displayed in 3D--let alone in 2D.
I am giving this royal pain my rear one star because it costs a fortune and rarely functions in even a passible state. Eight months ago it might have gotten two or even three stars from me before the 3.0 upgrade when most of it sort of worked. Now it is just a glaring reason why I will never purchase a Pioneer product for the rest of my life! In its current state this product is no better than one star; at least I can still listen to the radio!
 Some problems, but good outweighs bad March 2, 2010
Quentin L. Pegram (VA)
I've had this since June 09. Like other have stated, it does take about 45 secs or so to boot on. For the first 20 secs you won't have any music then it will start playing whatever music you had playing when you cut it off last time. After 45secs or so you can then access the full menu. The Maps on this are from 2008 so you will encounter some roads that are missing or that it states are incorrect, you can update the maps but it will cost you about $100!!!. GPS is good though and there are many options, like avoid highway (great when traffic is backuped on the highway, hit those back roads!) I never had much luck using the MSN updates on gas and weather. I tried the free trial and it would rarely load the data, so I never extended my subscription. When I first got this it would randomly cut off but that problem has seemed to stop. But now it's coming back. It will freeze up sometimes after I finish a phone call and then some times it will reboot (remember 45 secs reboot time) randomly.
But for the most part its a good system. Screen is really big and crisp and touch sensitivity works fine. Bluetooth has never had a problem connecting to my cell phone or BlackBerry. (The Bluetooth works about from 25ft. So remember that when you're in the gas station or when you're warming your car up in the morning b/c the call will come into your car, lol.) Can play just about any music from a range of inputs. So only real complaints are boot up time and the occasional freezing, rebooting, and the cost to update the maps (you can update basic $100 Tom Tom's for free!!!argh!!).
 AVIC-F90BT - Slow and sluggish = Slug of a unit February 20, 2010
M. Vasi (Bloomington, MN)
I think that all of the integrated features are nice. The music, video, bluetooth, however the navigation is way too cumbersome and slow. I guess I noticed it more because when I drive my wife's car and use her unit, the difference is more pronounced. The touch screen is very slow to respond and the updates are pulsy. I decided to update the maps with the latest s/w upgrade and found that the 3D feature doesnt show street names any longer unless you have it at a very close setting. So I have to use the 2D map setting to see street names I am very disappointed in the unit's performance. The engineers should have opted for faster memory like the higher end units than try and put something out like this.
 Good product but.. January 21, 2010
Willy Arnaez Serrano
Sounds great, looks great, but is slow, you have to wait at least a minute to use it, and it has many buggs and the firmware and support aren't good.
For the price, it can't be beat. January 15, 2010
Frank Jones (San Jose, CA USA)
This went into a 2009 Accord V6 with Gex-P1 HD radio tuner, and an 80gig ipod. For a while I ran it as is having it power the factory speakers and I must admit it sounded pretty decent. These days it is fed though a pair of ARC amps pushing CDT components up from with Image Dynamics IDQ 10s in the back and while I wouldn't say this headunit is up to snuff for an SQ competition, it does it's job well.
For the price you can't shake a stick at this thing. Navigation with MSN Direct(yes I was a sucker MSN direct ends in a 2 years and I paid for lifetime). The MSN direct is very useful for commuters. It takes a while for it to get a signal but luckily I live a mile or so from the highway. By the time I get to the highway it has the MSN traffic and tells me whether or not to get on. This has saved me a brutal highway trip many times.
Yes it is a little slow to boot, it is windows. Sadly my phone, my laptop, my desktop, my HTCP and even my car are windows lol. The 3.xx update speeds it up even more but introduces a few bugs that I didn't like. Currently I'm running a hybrid ROM that I cooked from a collection of ROMs on AVIC411.
The screen is great quality, I wish it would dim down just a little more at night. Even with a very dark custom theme the nav screen is a little annoying to me even set at zero. Make sure you calibrate it before complaining that it isn't accurate. Also putting custom POI and 3d building from AVIC411 makes this thing even sweeter.
I have had the problem of sound not coming from the right channel on the ipod. I changed to a monster ipod cable and haven't had problems since. This is the sole reason for 4 star and not 5, but it almost deserves 5 for the price.
I had trouble syncing the phonebook with my ATT tilt, but have since upgraded to an HTC pure and the phonebook syncs with no problem. The call quality is stellar.
Those that say this didn't come with the cable got the F900 and not F90.
Overall this is a fantastic deck. I paid much less than it's being offered now which makes it an even bigger deal :D
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